Thursday, September 29, 2011



From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject:  [video] A new democratic revolution is sweeping northern Europe - Nigel Farage

Would that we had a leader like Nigel Farage who can see and speak the truth.  This is our 'future' with the SPP etc. unless one of our 'leaders' stands and protects Canada and Canadians from these types of moves here.


A new democratic revolution is sweeping northern Europe - Nigel Farage

Barroso Says EU Will Overcome
Thursday, September 29, 2011 – by Staff Report
It seems very clear that the powers-that-be subscribe to the idea that they have been chosen to deliver appropriate direction to the masses. This sense that one has a kind of divine right to rule was supposed to have dissipated years ago – at least last century – but the EU's top people obviously believe they are Charlemagne's second coming.
The only reason they could believe this is because they have the backing of money power – endless torrents of central banking fiat paper controlled by a handful of individuals at the apex of the Anglosphere power elite. But what they may not realize is that they too are perhaps being manipulated, that those who seek to run the world via military force and political unions will betray their enablers without a backwards glance.... (emphasis in red added)

[read full article at link below]

From: Robert Ede
Subject: Breaking the Iron Grip of Stevie Firewall
To: chantal hebert <>

Hébert: Harper has no intention of relaxing his grip
Ms H,

cc L Martin (I've been corresponding with him re: Harperland ... but he's busy being an 'authority' these days)

Now it is essential that the Executive Order Part III -GG & Privy Council, incl Clerk and PCO- be restored to its place "above" the Legislative Order Part IV.

This misconception that the PM is the "head of state & commander in Chief", a "Friendly Dictator" as so many perceive, must end.

The merger of the PMO & the PCO only occurred, by Order in Council in 1940.

Under cover of wartime emergency Wm L M King drafted, presented and approved P.C. 1940-1121

This manoeuvre expanded the Clerk role to handle Cabinet business (lengthen the Job Title) and led to the current situation -in existence as long as anyone can remember ..... but it's contrary to the spirit AND letter of the BNA Act 1867.

Do we want a written Constitution? (ours is only similar in principle to the UK's un-written one)

If so, why not follow its provisions?

The alternative is the change-horses-mid-stream, my-way-or-the-highway authoritarianism of a single officeholder.

Your column can broach this "little fact" to a huge audience who all seek a solution - but cannot find it, because it's right under their noses in the foundational rule book ...

Here's the test, to bring awareness - ask anyone of your top-level colleagues to explain the difference between section 12 ( GG) and section 13 (GG in Council).

Like the child in the Emperor's New Clothes - once they see the obvious - the merged PMO-PCO is not legal - we can bring an end to this perilously dangerous, blatantly anti-constitutional usurpation of the Executive by the Legislative.

Sincere regards

Robert Ede,

From: Henry Atkinson
Subject: Fwd: More on smart meters

Begin forwarded message:

From: S&P Darcey
Date: September 28, 2011 9:54:21 PM EDT (CA)
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Fwd: Fw: More on smart meters
Just another "sneaky Dalton tax + HST" coming up ("if" Dalton gets re-elected).
Just one more reason to oust the Liberal government on Oct 6.

It never stops

Soon you are going to have to pay for the privilege of having it forced on you, plus, you guessed it, you are going to have to pay HST on the extra fee. But not until next year. Not something you are supposed to know about before an election.

At least the smart meters were made in Ontario right? Nope made in Korea.
Korea IT Times.

Buried on a footnote on page 1-102, of volume 2a of the 2010 Ontario Public Accounts is a revelation that Dalton McGuinty's Minister of Energy quietly approved a request from the Independent Electricity Systems Operator to apply to the Ontario Energy Board for a new tax called Smart Meter Service Fees.

Page 13 of the Independent Electricity System Operator's 2011-2013 Business Plan confirms that the Dalton McGuinty Liberals are already budgeting to collect $33 million per year in Smart Meter Service Fees beginning in 2012. Over the next four years, this would cost Ontario families $132 million to run the smart meter super computer.

This new Smart Meter Tax will be applied to smart meter hydro bills above and beyond the higher costs of "time of use pricing".

Already under Dalton McGuinty, hydro rates have gone up 84 percent and 150 percent for homes with a smart meter, not to mention the $1 billion ($200 per household) price tag that came with installing smart meters.


From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: Letter to Canadian MPs by Bill Woollam re Libya    DD
Joe--thanks so much for this site--what a great writer.
Subject: [AECL

Joe--I wouldn't look for logic in anything our governments do but the above site may explain why we sold AECL--are we going into bigger wars?

And then there is this--birds of a feather flock together?

Subject: [On-Guard] As long as they build it on their own land--it will also keep Americans out of Canada--a win/win situation?

Nearly half of Canadians oppose greater integration with U.S. law enforcement
Deal to smooth U.S.-Canada border woes inches closer to reality
The border service is also pondering options including a beefed-up technological presence through increased use of radar, sensors, cameras, drones and vehicle scanners. In addition, it might continue to improve or expand customs facilities at ports of entry.
The agency considered but ruled out the possibility of hiring "significantly more" U.S. Border Patrol agents to increase the rate of inspections, noting staffing has already risen in recent years.
The proposals are spelled out in a new draft report by the border service that examines the possible environmental impact of the various options over the next five to seven years.
Customs and Border Protection is inviting comment on the options and plans a series of public meetings in Washington and several U.S. border communities next month. It will then decide which ideas to pursue.
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano noted last month the challenges of monitoring the vast, sparsely populated northern border region. She stressed manpower, but also a greater reliance on technology.
Ironically, the moves come as Canada and the U.S. try to finalize a perimeter security arrangement that would focus on continental defences while easing border congestion. It would be aimed at speeding passage of goods and people across the Canada-U.S. border, which has become something of a bottleneck since the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Relatively speaking, Washington has focused more energy and resources on tightening security along the border with Mexico than at the sprawling one with Canada.
But that may be changing.
A U.S. Government Accountability Office report recently warned that only a small portion of the border with Canada is properly secure. It said U.S. border officers control just 50 kilometres of the 6,400-kilometre boundary.
The Customs and Border Protection report says while fences have been a big element in deterring unauthorized crossings of the U.S.-Mexican border, "it is unlikely that fencing will play as prominent a role" on the northern border, given its length and terrain that varies from prairie to forest.
However, the agency would use fencing and other barriers such as trenches to control movement and sometimes delay people trying to sneak across the border, increasing the likelihood they could be caught, says the report.
It doesn't provide details about what the fences might look like, but suggests they would be designed to blend into the environment and "complement the natural landscape."
The approach would also involve upgrading roadways and trails near the border.
"The lack of roads or presence of unmaintained roads impedes efficient surveillance operations," says the report. "Improving or expanding the roadway and trail networks could improve mobility, allowing agents to patrol more miles each day and shortening response times."
Over the last two years, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security has already made what it calls "critical security improvements along the northern border," adding inspectors at the ports of entry and Border Patrol agents between ports, as well as modernizing land crossings.
Nearly 3,800 Customs and Border Protection officers scrutinize people and goods at crossings. The number of Border Patrol agents working between crossings along the northern parallel has increased 700 per cent since Sept. 11, 2001. And some three dozen land ports of entry are being modernized.
Unmanned U.S. aircraft patrol about 1,500 kilometres along the northern border from Washington to Minnesota as well as more than 300 kilometres of the Canadian border around New York state and Lake Ontario.

Subject: FW: Tory MP calls out government over abortion funding

Joe--this is the email I sent to Trost yesterday.  I also sent him pictures of babies born after their mothers(and fathers") were exposed to DU.

From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: Tory MP calls out government over abortion funding
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:07:44 -0400

Mr Trost--I am writing to thank you for having the moral courage to stand against this promoting and paying for abortion in countries that have the morals to refuse to murder unborn babies.  But then, I guess any government that sees nothing wrong with bombing innocent children in Libya would not see anything wrong with funding killing babies before they are born?  I wonder if the Harper government will give aid to the babies born in Libya when they are born deformed by the DU that we are dropping on them with great congratulatory back slapping?  
What does the government not understand about the fact that funding an agency that supports abortion promotes abortion?  Using our tax dollars to bring other countries down to our level of immorality does nothing for us or the world.  Perhaps this money could be better used to support our people at home so they wouldn't feel the need to kill their own babies?
Thank you again for your courage.

Rebecca Gingrich
PO Box 2
Princeton, Ontario
Subject: Judge deems Harper's crime bill 'strain' on system
Joe--it is a harsher sentence for those growing pot than molesting children?  We have to protect the pharmaceutical companies?
Interesting that governments across the country spend our tax dollars supplying lawbreakers with clean needles and crack pipes while talking the talk about getting tougher on crime?  It is all a smoke and mirrors game and we, the honest citizen will be the only ones targeted?
Subject:  How the political shift among Jewish voters plays in Canada

Is Simpson saying that Harper is  a toady for israel?  If this is the case then why did they even bother counting the votes of others, or why did we spend millions on an election?  For that matter, why does anyone else even bother to vote?  Or why does not Harper et al tell us before the election who they will be governing for, Canada or israel?  Any thinking voter knows where Harper's allegience lies and it is not with Canada.  We are down the list of what is important to him--just keep paying taxes and shut up. 
350,000 dictate how the rest of us will be governed?  That is democracy? 
Sadly, I thought to vote in Canada you had to be a Canadian citizen.  So why are we being divided into special interest groups?  This says to me that our governments care not a damn what Canadians think--they only care what special interest groups want.  This bodes ill for Canada.  And it is also an insult to the groups polled. 
The article also proves that polls are for dogs--they know what to do with a poll(pole)

From: Larry Kazdan
To: Vancouver Sun LetED <>
Subject: Letter to Editor re: $930-million smart meter rollout not flowing smoothly as B.C. residents start making waves,    Jeff Lee,  September 28, 2011
Re: $930-million smart meter rollout not flowing smoothly as B.C. residents start making waves,
Jeff Lee, Vancouver Sun September 28, 2011

Prior to the BC Clean Energy Act, any BC Hydro project greater than $50 million required regulatory review by the BC Utilities Commission, and  an application for a Certificate of Public Convenience and Necessity (CPCN). The application included mandatory public consultation and afforded citizens and any other stakeholders an opportunity to question the claimed benefits of the project. It was up to BC Hydro to demonstrate that the project was in the best interest of the ratepayer.

But in 2010, the BC Government passed the Clean Energy Act, which exempted the Smart Meter Program from the regulatory review process and denied the public their chance to scrutinize the Smart Meter program.  But then why should B.C. taxpayers expect public consultation on a billion dollar project from the B.C. Liberals, the same democrats who gave us the HST?

Larry Kazdan,
620 E. 23 Ave,

From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: Judge deems Harper's crime bill 'strain' on system

Joe--it is a harsher sentence for those growing pot than molesting children?  We have to protect the pharmaceutical companies?
Interesting that governments across the country spend our tax dollars supplying lawbreakers with clean needles and crack pipes
while talking the talk about getting tougher on crime? 
It is all a smoke and mirrors game and we, the honest citizen will be the only ones targeted?


From: Robert Scott
Subject: Re: Daily Digest September 27, 2011

Hi Joe: below, my perpective on the debate.  Hudak could make life better for us in Ontario..........

Horwath held her own with charm, but with a weak closing statement.  She said "I think" rather than stating her position.  Good local policy on corporate tax cuts, but failed to recognize the existing global economy and multi-tiered health care system.  She could, however, perform well as official opposition to a Hudak Government. 

McGuinty didn't let the facts get in the way of his spins.  Then he slipped into an acknowledging winced in the face of the truth of all the suffering he has caused the people of Ontario.  He then quivered with exaggerated movement to the strength and honesty of Tim Hudak who came out strong for health care, education and the economy.  Hudak breaths real internal balance that goes beyond mere public performance.

From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: [On-Guard] And we are the noble fighters bringing them 'democracy' and 'freedom'?

British soldiers in Afghanistan shown 'war snuff movies'
Camp Bastion's 'Kill TV nights' are intended to update troops on mission's progress, says MoD
..In one clip an Afghan woman is targeted after a radio dialogue between pilots refers to her as a "snake with tits"....
[read full article at link below]

From: "jduddy"
Cc: "Prime Minister/Premier ministre" <>
Subject: Canada needs to be aware of this.
Dear Prime Minister, please research this.

From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: BBC Speechless As Trader Tells Truth:    DD

Joe--I don't understand why anyone is 'speechless' over this crash of our economy.  Does anyone really believe it is not orchestrated by the banksters in the first place?  The only thing that amazes me is that this man spoke the truth.  And remember, the head of the BOC, Mark Carney,
Becky is a former CEO of GoldmanSachs

Subject: # of Privy Councillors (appointed but neither elected to office, nor appointed to Senate) see links
To: : # of Privy Councillors (appointed but neither elected to office, nor appointed to Senate) see links
To: Privy Council Office <>, Rt Hon Stephen Harper <>,

Dear Sir/ Madame
I was prompted to enquire about the total number of past and present Privy Council Members who had neither been elected to an office in Canada/province/territory/municipality, nor been appointed to the Senate, prior to being "chosen and summoned by the Governor General
and sworn in as Privy Councillors" BNA 1867,s.11
A passing reference in today's Globe and Mail, " ' Yes, we have the $25-million,' Quebec firm says of asbestos plan ", to the 2003 appointment of the The Honourable Baljit Singh Chadha, brought this thought to my mind -no question, it's perfectly legal, but I just wonder how common it is/has been?
Robert Ede,
Subject: Cdn Privy Counsellor (L -2003) Hopes to Buy (Que) Asbestos Plant -to export to home country, India
To: rGmailrobertede Ede <>

......A staunch Liberal, Mr. Chadha was appointed to the Privy Council of Canada in 2003 by then-prime minister Jean Chrétien to serve on the committee that oversees the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
....Baljit Chadha held himself out as the potential saviour of Quebec's faltering asbestos industry ....
....Mr. Chadha, whose company already handled much of the mine's asbestos sales to his native India, offered to buy the mine outright in August of 2010, for "tens of millions." But to clinch the deal, he had to secure an additional $25-million from outside investors while the Quebec government kept the mine afloat with a $58-million loan guarantee.
....If Quebec approves his investment plan, he hopes to ramp up annual export sales from the sprawling but largely unused mine to at least $150-million within two years. He projects $3.4-billion in sales over the next two decades.
......A staunch Liberal, Mr. Chadha was appointed to the Privy Council of Canada in 2003 by then-prime minister Jean Chrétien to serve on the committee that oversees the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
..... see link to FULL Mop& Pail article -presented on

'Yes, we have the $25-million,' Quebec firm says of asbestos plan

julian sher

MONTREAL­ From Tuesday's Globe and Mail
Published Monday, Sep. 26, 2011 9:45PM EDT
Last updated Monday, Sep. 26, 2011 9:58PM EDT
Robert Ede,

Subject: Fwd: When the TV tells the truth
From: Rene Moreau

Forwarded to many, but this is probably a great way to duplicate the
ploy used at 'Head bashed in Buffalo jump' way of hunting buffalo.
Scare the people enough to panic and stampede over a cliff!  Hedgers
make big killing, right?
   So did the Indians.
   Considering reading the Cancerous Aspects of current capitalism,
can be found in 5 pages, thanks to John MacMurtry.
   So, seeing this, take it with a pinch of salt, and remember the buffalo.
   In other words, stay skeptical, don't panic.


When I watched this clip for the first time,I thought it was a joke.

Then I realized, no.
They actually put someone on the tube who told the unvarnished
truth about the economy.

Must viewing if you want to protect yourself from what's coming.

This is one to share.


From: Ron Thornton
Subject: Re: Daily Digest September 25-26, 2011

Hi Joe:

Tony Clement must go. The man comes with the kind of baggage that would keep a laundry in business forever.  We got the G8, and he took it the opportunity to slide in millions in goodies to his area using that gathering as cover. He knows he did it, the opposition does, and so do we. Trying to paint this other than what it is just undermines the government and its claim to being open and accountable. Simply put, we are not buying the bullshit, we never will buy the bullshit, and we won't ever forget the bullshit as long as Tony Clement is there to remind us.

It is kind of like those four RCMP cops that lit up that Polish guy in the Vancouver airport FOUR times, then tried to cover it up. Until those responsible are brought to real justice, than I say bullshit to anything the RCMP tries to do to demonstrate how enlightened they have become. Until those killers face the music...bullshit.

Ron Thornton

From: "Noel St-Laurent"
Subject: Re: Opinion on Canada's involvement in Libya

Here is my two cents on military armed conflicts:
No Country should start a military armed conflict.
Having said that, unfortunately, in a world where some countries cannot solve their differences without military armed conflicts, allow me to express my views on the subject.
Any country that is forced into a war situation should make a quick and final decision as to whether to surrender without a fight, or engage the attacking foe.
When the decision has been made to defend oneself, the politicians should take 100 paces backward and hand over the task of defending their country in the hands of the Generals of their military divisions - land, air and sea with the explicit order to get the conflict over and done with in a hurry.
This means that the armed forces are told to use the biggest stick they have at their disposal right at the beginning of the hostilities. If the sticks they have are not big enough, make sure they can get ones big enough to do the job in a hurry. And get all the boots on the ground, in the air and at sea you can muster on the double.
And keep the politicians out of military decisions.
I say this because in Vietnam, in Afghanistan and many other military conflicts around the world since WWII, the politicians of the US, NATO countries and many of their allies around the world never intended to win these wars.
They could have won these wars. They had the military MIGHT had they been willing to use it.

These wars could have been won in a matter of months. But the politicians meddled. It was politically expedient to look as if they were doing something, but not politically expedient to win these wars. The Soviet Union did the same thing in Afghanistan. The got out the losers. So will NATO and the US.
Incredibly, most of the countries that have engaged and beat the US, NATO and their allies since WWII were no match for the military MIGHT the latter could have brought to bear on these tin pot regimes. Even the Soviet Union had the military MIGHT to win. But they didn't have the resolve either.
Either you get involved in these wars, or you don't. And if you do, you'd better have the resolve to WIN and do whatever it takes to do so.

You have to pound the enemy long and hard until they have lost the will to fight. And once they have, you inflict upon them a last deadly blow to make sure they don't change their minds.
In the foreseeable future the FREE WORLD, if we can call ourselves free, will face a determined foe who has greater resolve than we'll ever have. And I can tell you that the so-called FREE WORLD doesn't have an iota of resolve as this foe has.

As a result, I honestly believe our great-grand-children will speak another language, their wives and daughters will not dress the way ours do.

WHY? Because we tolerate the intolerable because we are too nice; or is it because we don't have the gonads to stand up for our way of life, for our beliefs and our principles?
I have no faith in the politicians of the FREE WORLD to win any armed military conflicts in the foreseeable future.
The civilian population is no better. They cry "ATROCITY" at the number of soldiers we have lost in Afghanistan over the years we have been involved there, not realizing that during WWI AND WWII we were losing that many in matter of hours every day.

Don't get me wrong, I deplore the loss of lives in these conflicts. Unfortunately they are unavoidable.
I can already hear the labels that will be directed at me. All I can say to this, there will always be many who can't handle the truth.

You either fight or surrender. And if you decide to fight, you fight to win.
Noël St-Laurent

From: Phil Rose
Subject: Re: Daily Digest September 22, 2011

Hi Joe,

Hope all is well.

I think Orwell's term was pretty good, especially to describe simultaneously our situation in the West and that of a power like China - 'oligarchical collectivism'. Even better, I think, is Neil Postman's phrase 'totalitarian technocracy'.

All the best,


From: "Anthony Silvestro"
Subject:  Letter to the editor - Ontario election...

Letter to the editor -

Wake up people! Big government, more debt, higher taxes…The province of Ontario is in deep, deep trouble and no party is addressing this.

 ""We don't want the party to end, the "free" trips, expense accounts…perks, gold plated pensions, free this, free that…Yes indeed, see we in government, are all entitled to our entitlements folks and we can't stop that, at least not until we retire. Our unions say so, it's ours and we want it now...$$$"

Scum bag parasitic unions, police, all government…all the same, bankrupting future generations…and they don't give a damn. All you hear from government is high priced, expensive spin.

We now have over 3.5 million people working for government across the country. Average salary in government is 70 thousand (including benefits, pension, bonuses...) yearly and rising. Average salary in the private sector is 45 thousand yearly and dropping. Over 10% of government employees now make over 100 thousand yearly. In the private sector the number is under 2%. Look to Greece, Ireland and Quebec (all bankrupt), this is where Canada is headed if we don't stop equalization and get spending and government growth under control. This tax and spend, union scum, socialist, big government, social engineering that has been destroying this country has got to stop. Yes, it has left Quebec and has been spreading throughout the rest of the country since the 1960"s, that's right over 5 decades of massive government growth, massive government hiring, higher taxes, skyrocketing government salaries, social engineering ( the expensive forced phony charter, bilingualism, multiculturalism…) and more and more debt. Thanks Trudeau, Tanks kebec (original native spelling). Don't believe me; go check the stats for yourself.

Try to digest this scum bags. Who do you think is going to pay off all this debt you are leaving your children, your grandchildren? That's what I thought, you don't care!

We need a new party, a new leader willing to deal with the facts, the truth for a change. Things need to be cut. The future is at stake here and no one is willing to deal with this, how sad, how pathetic, all of you.

Anthony Silvestro,

From: Dan Kahraman
Subject: The Freed "Hiker" Josh Fattal's Israeli Roots

Subject: Letter to Editor re:  Vancouver protesters call Dick Cheney a war
 criminal, KEVEN DREWS, The Canadian Press, Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2011

Re: Vancouver protesters call Dick Cheney a war criminal, KEVEN DREWS, The Canadian Press, Tuesday, Sep. 27, 2011

And what are the chances that a representative of Syria or Iran wanting to defend sleep deprivation and waterboarding in their country would get clearance at our border?  Lest we forget, the United States government hanged Japanese soldiers because they waterboarded US prisoners during World War II.

Larry Kazdan,
Subject: Letter to Editor re:  UN's become nothing
  but a big joke,  DAVID AKIN,  September 26, 2011 

Re:  UN's become nothing but a big joke,  DAVID AKIN,  September 26, 2011

If Canada hadn't been involved in rendering suspects to Syria for torture, and the U.S. not engaged in waterboarding nor extrajudicial killings nor supporting authoritarian allies around the world, then perhaps our moral outrage at dictatorships, totalitarian regimes and notorious human rights abusers at the UN would not appear so hypocritical.
Larry Kazdan,

From: Dan Kahraman
Subject: Terrifying NATO Cluster Bomb in Libya - Raw Footage

From: Robert Ede
Subject: songs etc we like(d)

From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: They might shoot us?????

CP Interview: Canadian envoy says Libya needs fewer guns, more oil to succeed

And so it begins.  First we train and arm the 'rebels' and now we want to disarm them?  Guns and bombs were good to kill Libyans but now that we are going to go in we need to get rid of the guns?  And 'democracy' is having foreign countries control your resources?  Greedy corporations make a country a 'democracy'?
It will easier for companies to function under the rule of law?  Whose law?  Sadly, there was a law but it did not suit the greedy Western corporations so it had to go.
This woman is an outright liar.  The power companies, the water system and all those things that Libyans needed to survive were destroyed by NATO bombs.  Even hospitals were destroyed.  Libyans were totally supporting themselves until NATO and their humanitarian bombs started killing.
In here last sentence she could easily have been talking about our 'leader' and no one would know the difference?