Thursday, July 14, 2011

Daily Digest July 15, 2011




>>>>>>>>>>INFOS <<<<<<<<<< []

Two views.,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d16b931e6122699a&biw=1152&bih=767

Would what is occurring be classified as a sort of "collateral damage"?

From: Peggy Merritt
Subject: You do wonderful work!

 Hi Joe:  Hope I didn't go too far overboard with my last remarks (which you didn't publish)  I have noticed in my brief time on this vale of tears that the Conservative Party always attempts to clean up the messes the Liberals never deal with while in office.  Today we have a Prime Minister who does have vision and wants to make things work in Canada. 

All the issues you mentioned have been on the back burner for many years and to say that things are being done without consultation is simply not true.  I am minded of the phrase in our Confession 'we have left things undone and have done we have not ought to have done and there is no health in us'  So please forgive an 'old war horse' who is still an activist and tries to bring another perspective to your discussions. With thanks  Peggy

Indeed. As you say we "just aren't hearing anything from any Conservatives these days". Not totally accurate but near enough to being so the Silent Watchers (many of whom are not fixed in their positions) are not provided with what the Digest can be a means of providing - reasoned debate of issues affecting us all.

As a "war horse" you are as you have ever been a "destrier"

To you much thanks.


Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:06:10 -0400
From: Peggy Merritt
Subject: You know me!

Hi Joe;  For many years the farce of the UN has dictated to the world their so called direction in world affairs.   That organization is dominated by countries that are either dictatorships or something of that nature.  In the past governments in Canada have simply gone along with any of the UN's decisions regardless of the wisdom.  So the we and our in that statement by our great Prime Minister certainly meets my 
criteria of what I think about our solutions to many problems that have never been solved by past Canadian governments  including the CWB and AECL.  I don't think I am  alone in this assessment  just aren't hearing anything from any Conservatives these days.   Peggy

From: Ron Thornton
Subject: Re: Daily Digest July 13, 2011

Hi Joe:

As you may have noted, I don't write as much as I used to. Usually, I await something to spark me to do so, be it a news item or a response to the other writers who contribute their thoughts. Unfortunately, either the subject matters have not been of much interest to me to invest the time to respond as of late, or the information has been a retread of thoughts that has already been put before us. I'm not sure what has sparked me to do so today, other than maybe I'm just becoming more cranky as time goes on.

As a good conservative, I believe in my government spending less of my money. As a Scotsman, what they do spend money on I hope has a positive impact on me and mine, or at least makes me feel good that it is being done. I like things done in a competent manner. For example, when the Chinese can build the longest bridge in the world in less time than the bands of clowns in Edmonton can renovate a single damned bridge, it takes away my warm and fuzzy feelings.

I read about those darn Jews, about what and who they control and what nasty folks they are. Good to hear that there isn't a single poor Jew anywhere, that they all are on top of the food chain, and it is they are who responsible for the world's ills. However, I must admit that if it came to choosing between some orthodox Jew living on some kibbutz somewhere and some gun happy turkey clucking animal who doesn't give a crap about the things I hold dear, forgive me for picking the Jew. Of course, such generalizations are inherently bullshit anyway. I do agree that certain cultures don't mix. Placing me to live among an unknown tribe in the Amazon, for example, might be a bad idea. In fact, having me move into your place for a few months might illustrate that even that slight variance in our "cultures" would be enough to make you look forward to my departure.

I agree that sometimes Americans, specifically their governmental and industrial leaders, are sons-of-bitches. Hell, there are times some of them are downright evil. Sadly, while they are not perfect I don't know of any nation that is...including the Swiss. So, if you don't like the Yanks, who do you like? The French? The Greeks? The Italians? The Russians, Chinese, or how about any of the enlightened regimes in the Middle East? Even a SOB can be a better fit for me and mine, though I agree working to keep any of them from becoming even bigger SOB's is a worthy endeavor.

I keep hearing how Stephen Harper is a real bastard. He might be, but how does he compare to the alternatives? No one has ever presented an alternative on this forum, so please enlighten me. If not Harper, than who and why? I would really love to know...really.

I would like to hear about a climate friendly, affordable, and available alternative for oil. Oil does more than run our cars, and its derivatives are what is mainly responsible for our current way of life. I like oil. I like that it keeps me warm, that it allows me to travel distances in my nation that are still unheard of in other parts of the world, and it helps give me and mine life spans at least 20 to 30 years greater than they had before it. So, have we yet raided the patent office to see what life changing inventions and discoveries await for the betterment of mankind if only they also proved to be for the betterment of the corporate interests that hold them? Carburation systems that allow cars to run a hundred miles a gallon, breakthroughs regarding electrical and hydro power systems, are just a couple that quickly spring to mind. Please shake the industrial trees to see what falls out before expecting me to p*ss in the dark.

Finally, someone mentioned my favorite hypocrite, Al Gore. Pay Gore for a carbon credit, and all of your environmental sins are forgiven, eh? That is like my sons offering turd credits so that we can each crap on our neighbours' lawn. Even if my boys actually cleaned up the crap for a profit, which seems more than Gore's scheme offers, the focus would not be in keeping our lawns feces free, but in allowing my boys to get rich. That is about as green (as in cash) as Mr. Gore gets.

Ah, I feel much better, Joe. I should be good now for another few weeks.

Ron Thornton . . .
 your "favorite hypocrite" Round ??? sent out very early this morning.

To: National Media <>
Subject: F.Y.I.: Al Gore, Alex Bogusky and the Climate Reality Project are about to reignite the Climate Change conversation in September
Bcc: Untitled-A17, Untitled-A18, Untitled-A19, Untitled-A20-CAPP LIST
This is news to me. It may not be to you. It may not be of interest to you .
It may be your preference not to receive what is sent this way to you again.
If the latter is the case please reply with REMOVE in the subject line.
Will this succeed in reigniting the Climate change conversation?
Or will it fail to reach the heights that Gore attained before?
It'll be interesting to follow.
Joe Hueglin

  1. News for The Climate Reality Project

    []   Environment News Service Al Gore turns to live stream & extreme weather for new movement Reuters - 10 hours ago It's called the Climate Reality Project, and the first event will live stream content that shows how extreme weather has affected people's lives. ... 50 related articles

    Meet The Climate Reality Project Huffington Post (blog) Al Gore Wants You to Join the Climate Reality,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=5f77de7bebd6741c&biw=1152&bih=767
From: John Duddy
Subject: Important: Israel, 9/11 and Jonathan Kay

Israel, 9/11 and Jonathan Kay

From: Rebecca Gingrich
Subject: the dangers of smart meters
Subject: but the US still sends billions of dollars to israel every year

Outcasts: Tonight Tens Of Thousands Of Formerly Middle Class Americans Will Be Sleeping In Their Cars, In Tent Cities Or On The Streets
Subject:  Does this mean Canada is bombing for the benefit of the US and the banksters?  How much more evil can we become?

"Why Libya? Why Qaddafi?"
By Husayn Al-Kurdi

July 14, 2011 "Information Clearing House" -- What are the reasons why the US government and its current President Barack Obama and his cabinet, are so vehement in their insistence that Libyan leaderMu'ammar el-Qaddafi "must go"? Why does the American regime insist on Qaddafi's removal, to the extent of overseeing repeated bombings of his residences and other places where he may be staying or visiting, following a long series of assassination and coup attempts? Why do they continually reject overtures at mediation, even vetoing proposed UN-supervised free and fair elections so that the Libyans can cast their ballots to determine their choice of leaders? Why are the NATO war forces unleashed and all manner of military and logistical assistance being proffered to the anti-Qaddafi forces, styled as "rebels" and "freedom fighters" by their sponsors in America and Europe?

From: Ray Strachan
Subject: Was just thinking, again.

Am sure you are familiar with the book  , The Creature From Jekyll Island. by G Edward Griffin,written in 1994.Actuall I have only began to hear of it recently,seems terribly prophetic to me.
Was just reading a piece in "The Casey Daily Report."   Saying that  The US GOVT. has taken (maybe borrowed)180 Billion out of retirement funds such as IRA`s   and The Public Service retirement accounts, I suppose in a small effort to keep their country afloat.
Dont know why I doubt their integrity,I just automatically do.
I do believe that the worlds population of Just Regular People, are simply just   sitting ducks at this point in time.

From: Mahmood Elahi
To: <>,"William Watson" <>
Subject: Booming China has a lesson for bankrupt America: Raise taxes to have more revenue

The Editor
Financial Post
Booming China has a lesson for bankrupt America: Raise taxes to have more revenue
Re U.S. turn to be banana republic by William Watson and Default clock tick by Jack M. Mintz (July 14).
Recently, I returned from a month-long visit to Shanghai, Beijing and other cities of China. It has been an extremely rewarding experience to see a vast country on the move. With Maglev (magnetically levitated) trains running at a breakneck speed of 430 kilometres per hour, Shanghai looks like a city of the future. China's super highways and expressways were filled with late model cars. China has already overtaken the United States as the world's biggest market for cars. While the United States and other Western nations slowly recover from the financial collpse brought about by subprime mortage crisis, China has been growing at a blistering rate of 10 per cent. As Financial Times columnist Martin Wolf noted: "The West's reputation for financial and economic competence is in tatters, while that of China has soared."
I witnessed China's industrial might while visiting Shanghai's huge container port --- the world's largest. As far as eye can see, ships nof all sizes were loading and unloading (mostly loading) containers. It was an intimidating demonstration of China's industrial clout. Recently, China has overtakedn the United States as the world's greatest trading nation. It has displaced the U.S. as Japan's biggest trading partner and displaced Japan as Australia's biggest trading partner. And the United States is running a huge trade deficit of $340 billion vis'a-vis China. In fact, China is now bankrolling America's trillion-dollar budget deficit.
China is also on the way to bypass America as the centre for research and development (R&D). While a bankrupt America is finding it difficult to provide financial resources needed for research, China is tageting a number of critical areas where it intends to be the world's best. Dr. Jing Naihe, director of Shanghai's Institute for Biochemistry and Cell Biology, said that "our top stem cell labs are among the worl's best" and "in 10 years we should be at the top." While the U.S. space program is winding down because of the financial crunch, China's space program is being expanded. China has already sent astronauts to space and is now gearing up for robotic and manned missions to moon and beyond. Top Chinese scientists working abroad are returning to China because it has now the resources to provide them with first class facilities. Once upon a time, America used to be a magnet for such talents.
China has also raised corporate taxes. As of Dec. 1, 2010, it began to charge foreign companies higher taxes to help finance local city maintenance, construction and schools. This means foreign companies will now have to pay equal taxes as their Chinese counterparts. Before, in urgent need for foreign investment, the government put into place an array of policies to attract foreign firms. Among them were hefty tax breaks for foreign investors. Now, as China has become an industrial superpower, there are stronger calls for equal treatment of foreign and domestic firms. Before, foreign firms were charged a much lower rate of 15 per cent, while domestic businesses paid 33 per cent.
Although tax rates are less appealing, foreign investors say that they would not reduce their investments in China. In fact, they would invest more in China, as they are confident they would profit from China's vast domestic market even at the cost of higher taxes. "At any rate, we cannot resist the temptation of China, because it is such a strong economy with relatively cheaper labour costs and huge markets, while few other countries have such advantages," said Takeshi Uragami, general manager of Japan's Panasonic Corporation in China. Yang Wonjun, general manager of Qingdao New Century Tools Ltd, a South Korea-invested tool manufacturer in the eastern coastal city of Qingdao, agrees. Yang Womjun found China's improved public services were also an important reason for his company to stay. The company will triple its investment in China in 2011, he said.
Takeshi Uragami said in 2011, Panasonic plans to conduct part of its product design in China. "We hope foreign business could enjoy better public services. We also hope the Chinese government could keep the value of yuan stable. It is so important for us," he added.
Booming China shows that the United States, facing bankruptcy, can profitably raise taxes in order to bring down the budget deficit without undermining public services.