Monday, October 15, 2007

Daily Digest October 15, 2007


The DAILY DIGEST: INFORMATION and OPINION from ST. JOHN'S to VICTORIA.

EDITORIALs

ST.JOHN'S TELEGRAM - Cheers & Jeers print this article
Jeers: to electioneering on our dime. So Canada's Sort-of New Government(TM) is now writing to seniors, asking them if they want "to get your fair share." The document, a campaign-style pamphlet, asks seniors if they want more information on a variety of benefits.
http://www.thetelegram.com/index.cfm?sid=71312&sc=80

CHARLOTTETOWN GUARDIAN - A probing look into students' lunch boxes print this article
High school and junior high are one of society's last chances to build healthy lifestyles for young Islanders
http://www.theguardian.pe.ca/index.cfm?sid=71329&sc=103

HALIFAX NEWS - Acceptance elusive
http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?pid=3497

HALIFAX CHRONICLE HERALD - Carney's in the office
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Editorial/959352.html

OTTAWA CITIZEN - Matters of faith
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/editorials/story.html?id=02c44bfd-2b85-4713-95d2-d55e212cb29e

TORONTO STAR - Parliament must decide
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/266437

HAMILTON SPECTATOR - Election move will backfire
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/266274

SUDBURY STAR - Gore not worthy of Peace Prize
http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=733978

        First broken promise; McGuinty's vow to increase voter turnout didn't happen
         http://www.thesudburystar.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=733980&auth=Wallace%2c+James

WINNIPEG FREE PRESS - Mr. Manley goes to war
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/editorial/story/4057856p-4662345c.html

         Awkward truths
         http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/editorial/story/4057857p-4662372c.html

SASKATOON STARPHOENIX - Cynical move could backfire
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/forum/story.html?id=b98c81a8-074a-4ad6-b2e5-1401ad6d64c2

         Passenger list call obnoxious
         http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/forum/story.html?id=123f4cc4-6254-4990-bd63-e936bc20f4f0

EDMONTON SUN - Something to like about Trudeau, Dion
http://www.edmontonsun.com/Comment/Commentary/2007/10/15/4576850.html

LETHBRIDGE HERALD -
http://www.lethbridgeherald.com/cat_index_28.php

PRINCE GEORGE CITIZEN - Tory gambits shouldn't get them more votes
http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99671&Itemid=161

VANCOUVER SUN - Technology lifts the mask that it gave to online predators
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=9fc1bf11-6226-4e82-9a70-a2bb872d4864

VANCOUVER PROVINCE - A sensible way to find a consensus on Afghan mission
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/editorial/story.html?id=65206d9b-d093-4139-be99-e97261d605de

VICTORIA TIMES-COLONIST - Time to consider new plan for subs
The Defence Department should think hard about scrapping the problem-plagued vessels
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=24eb0fa5-943f-4da4-ab3e-e3499e7efc9e


ISSUES

ABORIGINAL AFFAIRS
Aboriginal treaty an act of compromise, says chief
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071015/aboriginal_treaty_071015/20071015?hub=Canada

Native women unveil report to fix legal 'gap' for divorcees
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/10/15/native-report.html


CANADIAN FORCES
Former battle group commander named as veterans ombudsman
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/10/15/veteran-ombuds.html

Political circus comes to town in Kandahar
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/959396.html

Private US military contractors move into Helmand
British forces fear influx of Americans may harm 'hearts and minds' campaign after Blackwater shootings in Iraq
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asia/article3058906.ece

Canadian Forces plan to recruit more civilian contractors
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2007/10/15/4578248.html


CANUSA/USACAN
Passenger lists no business of the U.S.
Canada should stand up to U.S. request for airline manifests
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=1dfe7a0a-0e5d-495d-ae47-c7d052fe4370


FOREIGN AFFAIRS
China feeling the squeeze
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=b9b47711-f58c-4e63-9628-95ac92156fce

HITLER'S LEGACY: ISLAMIC ANTI-SEMITISM IN THE MIDDLE EAST- THE IMPACT OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
http://www.spme.net/cgi-bin/articles.cgi?ID=3008


HEALTH CARE RELATED
Anti-aging, cancer genes found
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=bcd65648-a386-4b4c-bcc8-a720ca9bca0d&k=36694

Wait times for surgery, therapeutic treatment up slightly: Fraser Institute
http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/071015/n1015196A.html

New drug approved in Canada to treat HIV, first in 10 years
http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/071015/n1015168A.html

Weight loss drug risky: Health Canada
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/national/story.html?id=acc7011d-8a38-4707-a0eb-4fc4ffb2a3b4


MIGRATION
Canada ranks high in immigration study
Places fifth out of 28 nations in Europe-based report
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=6e1cdb21-8586-47a1-bdb4-6ab69e9a9d6b

Cold realities greet Mexican migrants
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=a2f8ce5e-526a-4675-8e38-fb480986c011


POLITICS IN THE PROVINCES
Planks in Sask. Party platform inadvertently leaked
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2007/10/15/tax-cut-leak.html


POLITICS
Local Tories backing Casey
Riding association defies PM, wants expelled MP reinstated
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/959342.html

'Our best chance ... is with Bill' View comments47
POLITICS Casey gets support despite PM's warning
http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=71259&sc=89

New session of Parliament opens in prime time
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2007/10/15/4577150-sun.html

Opposition set to avoid triggering election
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=8e127200-c2a1-4b28-9fc0-12a572cc0a51&k=51885

Throne Speech charts Tory plans (includes opposition parties wish lists)
http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Canada/2007/10/15/4577151-sun.html

Tories set to unveil throne speech that could trigger election
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/10/15/throne-speech.html

Throne speech to focus on tax relief: sources
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071014/flaherty_thronespeech_071015/20071015?hub=Canada

More tax cuts, fewer trade barriers to come in throne speech: Finance Minister
http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/071015/n1015142A.html

Liberals may let Throne Speech pass, Dion says
Support for the government's agenda will depend on how 'conciliatory' a tone it strikes, the Liberal Leader asserts
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071015.wthrone15/BNStory/National/home

Harper to create government-run media centre: report
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/10/15/media-pm.html

No plans to pursue government media centre: PMO
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071015/harper_media_071015/20071015?hub=Canada

Bloc Quebecois leader looking for his demands to be met in Throne Speech
http://www.recorder.ca/cp/National/071015/n1015134A.html

Duceppe warns Harper to meet Bloc demands
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/national/story.html?id=1519f674-0ae7-4444-bbee-8dfae834eedf

Canadians eager to oust Harper, May says
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/10/15/may-policy.html

Harper could force an election by inserting 'poison pill'
Throne speech tactic to provoke opposition a risky move: experts
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=65cbdae8-e688-4e06-b7a7-527c3892bd2d

Atlantic accord version 2.0: What it means to politics
http://thechronicleherald.ca/Opinion/959351.html

PM recruiting Manley -- shrewd or cynical?
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/266282

Election reflects unsettled political times
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/265039

Get ready for another political slugfest
http://www.thespec.com/Opinions/article/266279

Manley is inspired choice to head Afghanistan panel
The committee also takes the war off the parliamentary table until January
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=55313a11-0c6d-4c70-b082-f5bc9aa4bd0d

Manley to the rescue?
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=457ebd56-8a94-4439-9999-9cba022053cd

Disappointment a likely part of PM's 'gift'
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=b6ee9d04-cbaa-4e79-8e40-172957af988a

Suffering from poor vision
Will Stephen Harper deliver the vision thing tomorrow?
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/opinion/story.html?id=c4b48467-36aa-43ed-ab16-cacf6b6ee819

Tory majority seen as a long shot
The Conservatives have made gains, but Harper would be rolling the dice with an election call
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071015.wpoll16/BNStory/National/home


PRESSURE POINTS
Canada missing environmental targets, StatsCan says
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/10/15/science-pollution.html

Time to lift lid off climate science's Pandora's Box
http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/editorial/story.html?id=d9edbe0c-d429-4b59-ba43-132e9b62c127

Climate change adds to poverty, hunger
http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/forum/story.html?id=34a3d267-1c5b-4a3a-9e58-91b99c4a01ed


OPINION AND INFORMATION
Shining a light into dark corners
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/theeditorialpage/story.html?id=9a3373f0-6f1d-48b8-bedf-ac24ed3de032

Stakes in royalty review are high for all of Canada, not just Alberta
http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/opinion/story.html?id=ac06ead9-2cdd-4ab4-97d9-c5b4425340b6

Demographics and economics: Better science education is key
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=c49ad47e-f015-40ab-a5d6-8682cafa3fc8

Repeated surpluses a sign of poor fiscal planning 
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=94f0c783-89b9-4fa2-ba05-8301efca9822

Budget surpluses deserve public debate
A controversy is erupting over what to do with federal surplus funds: lower taxes or increase services
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=39e332bd-e14a-4c42-b2af-2e660361f523

Harper's Afghanistan Panel: Let's Save Them the Bother of Visiting the Tim Hortons in Kandahar and Ghost Write their Report Now


INFOS
La fermeté de Harper vis à vis du dissident Casey fait des vagues
http://www2.canoe.com/infos/quebeccanada/archives/2007/10/20071015-212617.html

Le discours du Trône lancera la session parlementaire... ou une élection
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/071015/N1015231U.html

L'industrie forestière souhaite des mesures concrètes du gouvernement fédéral
http://info.branchez-vous.com/Nationales/071015/N1015174U.html

Suspense à la veille du discours du Trône
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015195/1025/CPACTUALITES

Duceppe prêt à aller en élections
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015169/1025/CPACTUALITES

Sondage: Dion et Harper ont peu de charisme
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015116/1025/CPACTUALITES

Le conservateur qui avait insulté Belinda Stronach perd l'investiture
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015198/1025/CPACTUALITES

Le gouvernement Harper n'a pas l'intention de construire un centre des médias
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015179/1025/CPACTUALITES

Le Parti vert veut des élections au plus tôt
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015110/1025/CPACTUALITES

Flaherty prévoit des baisses d'impôt
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015081/1025/CPACTUALITES

Denis Coderre est rentré d'Afghanistan
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071015/CPACTUALITES/71015012/1025/CPACTUALITES

Une association de comté du PC défie Harper
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071014/CPACTUALITES/71014078/1025/CPACTUALITES

Le gouvernement pourrait survivre au discours du Trône
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20071014/CPACTUALITES/71014067/1025/CPACTUALITES

Jérôme-Forget dénonce l'attitude d'Ottawa
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Economie-Affaires/2007/10/15/006-forget-valeur-mobilieres.shtml

Forces canadiennes
Blessures invisibles
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/National/2007/10/15/001-Afghanistan-forces.shtml

Discours du Trône
Baisses d'impôt à l'horizon?
http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2007/10/15/002-trone-flaherty.shtml

Parti conservateur
Stephen Harper défié
http://www.radio-canada.ca/regions/atlantique/2007/10/15/002-NE-casey_n.shtml


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A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION
        
        The probability of Stephen Harper acceding to the wishes Cumberland Colchester Musquodoboit Riding Association, always remote, has become
        next to impossible given the remarks of Sparrow and Soudras below. A precedent would be set.  A local Associations would have chosen the        candidate to run in its riding.

        The hypothetical question?  Would you if offered the Conservative Party of Canada  candidacy in Cumberland Colchester Musquodoboit Riding
        would you take it ? And as always why or why not?

                  Joe      
_____________________________________________________________

Scott Armstrong, said he hoped that the unity of the party to succeed and that Mr. Harper changed his mind.

In Ottawa, Ryan Sparrow, a spokesman for the party, assured that this would not happen, and that Mr. Casey would not be a candidate for the PC.
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.canoe.com%2Finfos%2Fquebeccanada%2Farchives%2F2007%2F10%2F20071015-212617.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

""As the prime minister said last week when he was asked that question, there will be a Conservative candidate in the riding, and it will not be Mr, Casey," said Dimitri Soudas. http://thechronicleherald.ca/Front/959342.html


                                                                                READER POLL  
                                                                                Today's question: Do
                                                                                you think Prime
                                                                                Minister Stephen
                                                                                Harper should
                                                                                allow Bill Casey to
                                                                                return to the
                                                                                Conservative party?

                                                                                · Yes (83%)
                                                                                · No (17%)
http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=71475&sc=75

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From: "Rebecca Gingrich"

Subject: DD

Joe--I agree totally with Phillis Kaffko.  Choosing Manley sends up red flags all over the place.  Isn't he also one of the 'leaders' on the SPP fiasco?  What does this mean?  Are we going to become even more integrated with the US via the Military?  We know where his loyalties lie--and it isn't with Canada and her sovereignty and people.  This is nothing but one-up-manship on the part of Harper.  Canada be damned.  If we wanted our politicians to play games we would buy them video games(not as if we probably haven't already.  Did you see the menu that we are providing them with on the Hill?).

As for the vote in Ontario--I was not surprised.  Many did not see any need to vote as there was no choice.  I voted but defaced my ballot with a big X through the entire thing.  The Liberals won nothing but the right to steal from us for another 4 years--but they are doing that without the blessing of the majority of citizens.    Democracy is dead in Ontario.

becky

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From: Thomas Beeston

Hi Joe:

This is with regards to Keith Coghlan's post on the Ontario Referendum.

Although I do support democratic reform, I think that MMP is the wrong option for Ontario and Canada as a whole.  As far as I am concerned, "List candidates" is absolute trash.  I think that the best possible system that could have been proposed would have been the Single Transferrable Ballot. Given our system of local candidates, this would be the one system that would make the most sense.  Rather than alter our ridings or create lists of candidates (candidates that are chosen by whom?,  I still do not know), we would keep our current system of electing our MPPs, but instead of marking an "X", we would mark our candidates in order of preference.  Should our first choice be considered unelectable, then our ballot would go to our second choice, and so on.  I support this system, but if you ask me to vote for MMP, I will not, and I didn't on Oct. 10.

I am not a person who has fear of never-ending minorities.  But I think that the only way to improve the system is with Transferrable vote.  We need our local candidates, and decreasing the number of local MPPs is not an option. If we can improve the way we elect our local MPs or MPPs, this would be something that I would support.

It was the option (MMP) that was not supported by over 60% of Ontarian's, not the need for democratic reform.  The awareness campaign was also run poorly, although we put blame on the government, Fair Vote should be blamed as well.

Thomas Beeston
Bancroft, ON

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From: "WF Thomas"


Subject: Your post on Al Gore's 7 point pledge... 13 October

I have no argument with your view and can agree with it wholeheartedly. I am now also a Denier after reading far too many articles written by qualified scientists. I am at a stage where I am starting to not believe anyone and wonder why global warming has become to many people a new religion with all the passion, rhetoric and hostility to those who disagree with them. I sincerely believe all this will also come to pass but that will take time well beyond my lifespan. Tommy

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Ernest Raymond

In response to Ron Thorton,

The 1% threshold is what makes the suggestion magical. It gives fledgling voices a reasonable shot at having a voice in the legislature with some very hard work and dedication.

I'm pretty sure you would agree, Ron, that it takes a significant effort to garner even 1% of the vote in Ontario. A fledgling party would have to run many many candidates throughout Ontario in order to reasonably expect to get 1% of the vote... not an inexpensive, nor trivial proposition.

Perhaps the 1% threshold for the granting of ONE SEAT based on popular vote should be LOWER (and actually it is at 1/107)

The thing is we want to encourage MORE VOICES in the legislature. More voices during QP, more voices participating in media scrums so that we can see all sides of each issue and involve as many people in the political conversation of their province.

Perhaps, being exposed to these voices, people would start to identify themselves as supporters of these fledgling voices and show up at the ballot box on election day or even involve themselves in the political process to help support the candidates and parties that they MOST identify with.

The goal of proportional representation would eventually entrench itself in the legislature, but only through an organic process, and not one where the fear of "radical fringe parties" taking over massive blocks of the legislature at a moments notice is a very real possibility under the recently proposed MMP.

And the nice thing about this suggestion is that it can be implemented IMMEDIATELY by Premier McGuinty, if he is truly concerned about the state of political participation.

Let Premier McGuinty put his Majority where his mouth is.

All Premier McGuinty has to do is to give any party who rece1ved more than 1/107 of the vote in the October 10th Provincial election ONE SEAT in the legislature by writing a law that will permit that.

The Greens will get their ONE SEAT, presumably it would be given to their duly elected leader Mr. de Jong, and the Family Coalition party would have come up just short having only achieved 0.8% of the popular vote.

If a party gets at least one seat through the traditional FPTP system then they have their VOICE in the Legislature and are NOT granted any further seats.

Are there any other perceived flaws in this proposition?

Please let me know.

Sincerely,
Ernest

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From: John Kruithof
Subject: Joining Forces - PC / Alliance

Re: Joining forces – PC / Alliance
Recent Daily Digests had interesting tidbits relating back to the 2003 Progressive Conservative leadership convention in Toronto.  I was a David Orchard delegate, and, at the time, certainly not interested in joining forces with the Alliance.  David's policy platform was the most comprehensive and most lucid one making the rounds.  I'm still interested in Orchard policies, but could not bring myself to joining the Liberal Party as he later did.

One convention event particularly comes to mind.  Candidate Craig Chandler delivered a speech, that in Wikipedia's words, not mine, is described as this: The night before the PC leadership convention, Chandler delivered a platform that the Canadian Press described as homophobic, fundamentalist and " neoconservative to the bone."  That's exactly how it struck me.  When Chandler threw his support to Jim Prentice, I was critical of the latter's camp for not repudiating Chandler.  My vote wound up, as Orchard's did, with  Peter MacKay.

Currently, I support the Conservative Party's direction of coming to terms with the multi-faceted aspects of Canadian thinking.  Joe, your Daily Digest contributes to illuminating the forces at play.

Best wishes,
John Kruithof
Ottawa South

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EDITORIAL
Politics as never before seen print this article
The Truro Daily News
http://www.trurodaily.com/index.cfm?sid=71475&sc=75

The bar has been raised another notch and if federal politics in Cumberland Colchester Musquodoboit haven't been interesting enough, the stove is about to get hotter.

The riding association board of directors met Sunday in Truro and voted overwhelmingly to support MP Bill Casey as the party's candidate in the next federal election.

This flies directly in the face of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who last week made it clear Casey is out of the party permanently.

The reason, of course, is that the MP voted against the June federal budget in protest to changes in the Atlantic accord equalization formula that protected natural oil and gas revenues from clawbacks.

Casey was ousted from caucus for breaking solidarity. Since then, he has gained support from many corners, including Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams.

Maintaining ranks is a tradition of Parliamentary party politics but this case is different. Casey stood up alone defending democratic principles, a signed agreement and in defence of his constituents and all Nova Scotians.

For this he was expelled.

The riding association finds itself in a precarious position, indeed. On the one hand, Casey has already been duly nominated and if there ever was a success story, the 62-year-old MP is it. Coupled with that is loyalty to Casey who has represented this constituency with honour and expertise.

Conversely, it is clear that if the riding association heels to the prime minister's promise that there will be an alternate candidate, the organization stands a good chance of imploding.

Casey intends to run as an Independent Progressive Conservative. Any Tory attempt to unseat him is doomed to fail and fail miserably.

The riding association intends to meet again Sunday in Wentworth. The executive has expressed hope Harper will changed his mind.

Don't count on it but stay tuned, nonetheless. It's going to get more interesting.

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'Our best chance ... is with Bill'
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POLITICS Casey gets support despite PM's warning
http://www.hfxnews.ca/index.cfm?sid=71259&sc=89
ROBYN YOUNG
CP

Bill Casey was worn out last night after spending a tense evening waiting while his Conservative riding association spent two hours in a meeting to determine his fate.

They decided to keep him.

"I wasn't in the room, I was out of the room because I didn't want my presence to hold anyone back from saying what they wanted to say," said the renegade Cumberland-Colchester-Musquodoboit MP.

With this move, the riding association is defying Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Harper has said Casey, who was booted from the Conservative caucus in June for voting against the federal budget because of changes to the equalization formula, would not be allowed to run for the party in the next federal election.

Casey said the vote yesterday to reinforce his nomination showed the association won't be pushed around.

They were given an ultimatum that the executive either resign and support Casey or stay and support the Harper candidate in the next election

"One person said, 'We haven't done anything wrong, why should we have to resign?'" Casey said.

"There is a democratic process in place, they nominated me once, they reinforced that tonight," Casey said after the meeting in Truro.

"If (Harper) believes in the democratic process, then that decision will hold."

Harper has the final say on candidate nominations, but Casey's riding association president Scott Armstrong remained hopeful the prime minister would change his mind.

"We're hoping that cooler heads will prevail and Bill will be able to stand," Armstrong said. "We feel the best chance for us to win a seat and deliver it to Ottawa is with Bill Casey."

Harper's press secretary said in an interview last night that the prime minister was "crystal clear" about his position.

"As the prime minister said last week when he was asked that question, there will be a Conservative candidate in the riding, and it will not be Mr. Casey," Dimitri Soudas said.

Defence Minister Peter MacKay, who told Parliament earlier this year that no Conservative who voted his conscience would be punished, also echoed the prime minister at an announcement in Halifax yesterday.

If Casey isn't allowed to carry the Conservative banner in the next federal campaign, he said he'll run as an Independent and take on Harper's candidate.

"If that's the way it works out, I'm ready," said Casey.

Casey's decision to oppose the budget centred on changes to the federal equalization formula, which he argued gutted a 2005 deal that protected natural resource revenues from clawbacks.

The budget forced Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland and Labrador, to choose between their offshore deals or an enriched equalization formula that included a fiscal cap - a choice that had the potential to cost Nova Scotia up to $1 billion.

In the months since the budget, both provinces have complained the federal government had broken the agreement.

But last week, Nova Scotia Premier Rodney MacDonald and Harper together announced an agreement to end the row between their governments, with Ottawa guaranteeing that Nova Scotia won't lose any royalties under the revised equalization formula.

And now MacDonald, who earlier this year had called on all MPs from the province to vote against the budget, is refusing to voice support for Casey.

Instead, he has said he'll support the Conservatives in the next federal election, as he has always done.

Casey expressed doubt about last week's agreement.

He said he still hasn't seen any evidence there is an actual, signed deal, which makes it impossible for anyone to know whether it's good for the province.

"I've asked four times for any kind of a memorandum of understanding or an agreement, and there is no agreement," he said. "So I haven't got a clue what's in there." - with files from the Canadian Press

ryoung@hfxnews.ca


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question asker from NS writes:
Where is the voice of the people? We want Bill. The leader who works for us doesn't seem to understand that it is not him that should make the decision. Where is democracy? He essentially is not allowing us the choice to vote PC if we support Bill. Dictatorship-Canada never thought those two words would go together.
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a former resident of HRM from ns writes:
I agree with you Question we will see if Democracy means anything to the PM and Peter MacKay as it is he who said no MP will be Punished for voting his conscience...Way to go Scott Armstrong for your decision,now we will see how Harpoon likes having his Cornflakes Peed in...will be interesting
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bob from n.b. writes:
I recently heard Peter Mackay referred to on a radio open line show as a champion liar. Kinda hard to deny, given his track record...so don't expect any support for Casey from there. Or Rodney (Let Him Twist In The Wind) MacDonald..or from Steve ...good old inflexible Steve. Run as an Independent and kick their collectives asses, Bill.!!!
Bob
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gman from n.b. writes:
Once again Mr. Harper has shown the voters he can not be trusted.He has claimed the new conserative party is a grass roots organization where the real power is with the people,sounds good until you examine his actions now that he is in power. The P.M. banished Mr. Casey from His party for having the nerve to stand up for the people of his riding. Now the Conservative riding association has endorsed Mr. Casey, can't get any more grass roots than that, but the P.M. still refuses to allow the will of the people to stand.Danny Williams is correct when he says Mr. Harper cannot be trusted and the pettiness of the man is beyond belief.
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John from NS writes:
If the PCs decide to run another candidate the NDP and Liberals should not run a candidate and watch Casey kick butt.
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Chris from Halifax writes:
Casey has yet to say whether he supports the new Accord deal or not. If he doesn't support, it I assume he would not want to run as a Conservative.
Does this mean he thinks Harper has fixed the Accord? If so, say so Bill.
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paul taylor from new glasgow, nova scotia writes:
Stephen Harper broke some cardinal rules of politics with this move against Bill Casey.
A. Never say Never B. Never make a political opponent a Martar.
Running as an independent or any other party Billy Casey will get the support of 'anyone but Harper' thinkers in his riding , that includes Liberals. Casey will have a larger majority then the last time especially with the Local Tories behind him . Harper will not have any local workers from his candidate and will be embarassed locally but Harper is basically writing off Atlantic Canada for Quebec and Ontario Which he will pick up his majority in . All the Tory seats in Atlantic Canada could go and Harper doesn t care because he is going to gain Mulroney numbers in the province of Quebec with his stance to the maritimes and his Nation status for Quebec. Both the Bloc and the Liberals are on the downward path in Quebec and Harper was close to a majority if some of the Gaspe Ridings had their very strong showing tory candidate wins those seats . The coming election rural Quebec will give Harper his Majority.
Harper will then have no crying RED Tories for out east to have to satisfy to hold power or atleast that is what He hopes and lusts for LOL.
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Gus Grady from Bridgewater, Nova Scotia writes:
Bill Casey is a Joe Clark tory. The new CPC is owned by the Alliance/Reform. Nova Scotians, as usual, are 10 years behind in their thinking. Dump Casey! Hes a loser.
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paul R from nova scotia writes:
to #6 Chris,Casey said thathe doesn't know what is in the deal,so he cannot comment on it
I have read many articles on this,including some in the globe and mail,and they all say that they can find no evidence that anything has actually been SIGNED .
How can you expect anyone to say if they will support the deal or not,when they don't know exactly what the deal says?
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Pete from NS writes:
Good thinking Gus,

and since all us Nova Scotians should start supporting the Alliance/Reform type thinking , we should all start hating minorities, bashing gays and privatizing medicine. Oh, and lets not forget Alberta,
they need more revenue and less envoironmental responsibility.

Vive la Canada!
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BJ from Truro, NS writes:
Holy crap! Now I know I won't vote Conservative.
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People Have Spoken from From a riding, Canada writes:
Dont' forget what you said Peter MacKay. Mr. Harper the people have spoken. If you challenge democracy, you shall give rise to a Mr. Williams in this province. What a wonderful thought. You need more thorns in your side so that you will not lie more than you have too. People here are not stupid! It just looks that way.
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Al Farthing from New Glasgow, N.S. writes:
This story refers to Bill Casey as a renegade?
Is that the new name for somebody who stands on integrity and the principle of honour, that when a promise is made, a promise is kept?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Gus Grady from Bridgewater, Nova Scotia writes:
Nova Scotias are so thick they cant recognize a brick if one smacked them on the head. 250 years of Liberal Patronege Politics and In-breeding have left a bad mark on the population here. Leave it to the maritimes to be totally out of step with the rest of the country! LOL. Bill Casey and his riding assocn are displaying the results of the second fault mentioned above. I, like the rest of the New CPC find the maritimes disgusting and laughable in their attemps at politics. Just a fly on the butt of the cow that is providing them with their living. Ha haha
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Dn. from Liverpool, N. S. writes:
When are people going to get it? Harper is a bully and Rodney is gutless. It is time to boot both of them out of office.
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Gus Grady from NS writes:
So, what's the problem, Pete? Oh yeah, everyone should be like you, eh? An icon of tolerance and understanding. You are so small!
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paul from london, ont writes:
Bill Casey is a decent man that put the wishes of his constituents above personal career advancements. He would and should win any election he chooses to run in be it federal or provincial. Souls he run and win as an independent he will be put in a tough situation to help those that elected him. Independents have little or no imput into any legislation, they are severely limited on the amount of opportunities to either speak, question or raise issues in the house. Bill Cadman had one shot at making a difference due to the circumstances at that time and such opportunities are rare. Mr. Casey would better be able to help his electorate if he were to run provincially as a Conservative or ,as Scott Brison did, run federally for another party. A man of principle should be in a position where his voice can be heard and not stifled by a vedictive parliamentary system.
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Gus Grady from NS writes:
The Right Honourable Stephen Harper is the best Prime Minister Canada has seen in the past fifty years. God Bless the Prime Minister of Canada. May he be granted a majority government and four years in which to bring the backward maritimes up to speed.
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David from Cole Harbour, Nova Scotia writes:
This situation is so unfortunate, we have the best federal Gov't in power that we have had in decades, and circumstances are putting Nova Scotians at odds with this Government.

Mr. Casey deserves credit for forcing this new deal, and I disagree with the PM's stand on net letting him run for the party again. That being said, if Mr. Casey wishes to continue doing what is best for NS, he should resign.
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can't believe I read that from ns writes:
Gus are you on the Ox or crack? While it may be an official title, Steven Harper does not deserve to have the words Right Honourable used in the same sentence as his name. There is nothing honourable about him.
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Shaking my head from Halifax, NS writes:
The best Prime Minister of Canada? Wow, you must have very low expectations from your Prime Minister.

The Right Horrible Stephen Harper certainly doesn't meet my expectations when it comes to governing this country.

How can a Prime Minister rightfully represent a country as a whole when he gives up on one region so he can garner votes in another? How can a Prime Minister be the least ominous figure on Parliament Hill? He shuns the media at every opportunity and only speaks to Canadians when it suits him or when he wants to get his party's message across. Since he has been in power he has addressed the media almost 50% fewer times as any other Prime Minister in office for the same amount of time. How can our Prime Minister not accept a signed agreement as is? How can our Prime Minister lie to the people who elected him?

Seems to me that the entire seems to be built on lies. And we thought the Liberals were bad, but its nothing compared to Harper and his greedy Tories.

Stephen Harper is leading this country down the wrong road at a time when it should be celebrating on the prosperity of its economy. He's bad for politics, bad for the country and especially bad for the Atlantic Region.
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paul R from nova scotia writes:
#18,Gus,Harper the best pm?HA!HA!
Thsi is the person who does not recognize SIGNED DOCUMENTS,such as the atlantic,kyoto,and kelona accords,LIES to the public,remember income trusts,daycare spaces,appointing a NON-ELECTED person to his caucus,and the list goes on.
Now he is building his own press room so he does not have to deal with the press corps,and won't let his ministers say anything that has not been approved by him.
This is not a PM. This is a DICTATOR.
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Dan from HRM, NS writes:
Hats off to Bill. I'd vote for ya if I lived there. I agree with another poster who suggests the Liberals and NDP stay out... and watch the butt kicking. I'd also love to see the end of Peter MacKay but thats unlikey in New Glasgow as they are so used to rattling the tin cup.
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Shaking my head from Halifax, NS writes:
To Gus...

Alberta wouldn't have gotten so rich, so quickly if it weren't for the hard working Maritimers who went out there in the first place.

In-bred?? You best watch your words when your categorizing a whole region of people. I'm sure there are many others on here who are proud of where they come from, proud of the work they do and proud that they don't associate with people like you. These people might not take to kindly to the labels you have given us.

Your opinion is welcome as much as anyone else's, but to belittle the people of this province and the people on this site is very unwelcome.
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mutineer from NS writes:
Gus-Please pack your bags at once and return to your own kind.
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Gus Grady from Bridgewater, Nova Scotia writes:
Hard working maritimers is an oxy-moron! They are nothing but a burden on the west - begging for jobs and staying long enough to get their unemployment stamps so they can return home to swill beer in the local legion all winter. Give me a break! Maritimers are nothing but a burden on other parts of the country - talk to some real people and stop believing the Cbc! Ha hahahaha!!!
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Ron S from Halifax, NS writes:
Gus's attitude is one that will only get more prevalent if Harper and his minions get a majority. Gus doesn't believe in democratic principles. Gus's intolerance is part of the conservative culture. Be warned.. If Harper doesn't uphold contracts with a minority, god help Canada if he gets a majority. And just like Harper, Gus is lying by saying that he lives in Nova Scotia. Gus if it's so bad in NS, why do you live here?
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Carl from Bedford, NS writes:
For #6. How can Mr Casey say anything about this so called new deal, when there is nothing on paper. Even if it was on paper it would not mean a thing as Harper could do to it just like he did with the original accord. I wouldn't listen to anyone in the last ellection when they were saying that you couldn't trust Harper, and I voted for them. I've learned my lesson.
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taxpayer from ns writes:
Gus is baiting you people.I have worked in 8 of the Provinces and yes all have faults, but the West well the backwater Alberta, was built on come from aways, mostly from the East. Far right wingers, like Steve are, in their intolerance, very scary, and sell outs like Peter from Pictou should be lumped in amongst them. He did sell the PCs, the real party down the river to the fundementalist Reform/Alliance.
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John Jon from Halifax, NS writes:
Please don't mind Gus folks, He's the kind of man that you would use as a blueprint to build an idiot. As for Mr Harper and his yes man Peter MacKay, never in all my life have I seen blatant liars such as these two, and i've been around probably longer than most people on here. These two have taken the word democracy and made it into a laughing stock. Right Horrible Stephen Harper, now thats a joke. Also, Premier MacDonald is a weak kneed jacka$$ with less balls than a new born. As for maritimers being far behind the rest of Canada, Gus, tell me this. Where on earth did you get that idea. Must be from out west where they think they are they only people who deserve anything in this country but yet provide nothing else but enviroment garbage for the next generation of Canadians. Maybe you need to pack your bags and go live among the fat heads who believe that the almighty buck is more important than protecting our natural resources Gus, you would fit right in.AS for Bill Casey, he voted as to the wishes of hes constituents above personal career, and that alone should garner him respect from everyone. including you Gus.
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peter must go from pictou writes:
Gus, If its so bad why don't you leave!!! Both you and ns would be better off without the hate you have for the people of this province. I live in Peter Mackay's riding and I am a Tory!!! Next election I'm heading to help the independent Bill Casey and also bringing other workers with me. How can you defend the lies and backstabbing in the party since we took power. I can't so i'm going to work for somewho else who has some value.
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gman from n.b. writes:
Hey Gus if you had any balls you'd run against Mr. Casey
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Ruth from Down the street writes:
last night I called my cat buffy, and she came over to me,. but her real name is fluffy! I shouldnt trick her, its not fair to her, but sometimes i can't help myself
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Damien from Nova Scotia writes:
To Gus....

Looks like somebody missed snack time.
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Jack from NS writes:
Gus, you speak of lazy maritimers being a burden to the hard working people of conservative canada.

Well you've been on this comment board all day long, get off your sister and go get yourself a job you braindead twit.
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Wait & see from ns writes:
You wait & see how much more cocky & irregant Stephen Harper will become if the people of Canada give him a majority. Put a moustache on Hitler, oh I mean Harper & give him a majority, you better practise your goose step.
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Gus Grady from Nova Scotia writes:
Gerald Reagan/Richard Hatfield/Bill Casey - what do these three have in common? To much! Ha hahahaha!
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Poli-ticks from Halifax, NS writes:
Some people may say Casey should have voted against his own conscience, so that he could stay in Cabinet and Nova Scotia would have a voice in the government. But what voice would we have if our elected officials are forced to tow the party line.

It's time to make every vote, a free vote.
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Shaking my head from Halifax, NS writes:
Gus Grady/George Bush/Terry Bradshaw/Homer Simpson - what do these four have in common? A lack of brain power, their inability to hold meaningful conversations and their lack of comprehension to realize that the universe is laughing behind their backs.

So Gus, whatever you do, don't congratulate yourself too much. You're not that good.
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Al Farthing from New Glasgow, N.S. writes:
Sounds like Gus has been swigging back way too much coffee today!
I can't believe you are serious Gus --- I think you are just playing with the heads of us poor dim peasants in Nova Scotia.
Some people think you are from Alberta. No way! I was raised in Alberta, go there often, have tons of firends and family there, and I never hear these kinds of things said there! In fact I did a seven week campling trip out West mostly --- at every stop I found people who had been to Nova Scotia --- wanted to come here --- and heard only tales of warm reception, kindness and courtesy, and beautiful food and scenery.
Gus could be a Newfoundlander though --- they have a wicked sense of humour, like to put us on, and tease..... that's my guess!
Anyway Gus --- you sure did get us all cranked up today! Nothing like a rabble-rouser to get the troops fired up!
But holy smokes --- cut back on that coffee!
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Troughmaster from ns writes:
It's a shame that Casey couldn't play by our rules. He chose his team, or at least a team that was absorbed by the reformers, leaves his little province in the east and heads for the the playground, which is Ottawa. Once there, he naively assumes that representing his constituents back home is the honorable thing to do. What a hick. After 20 odd years, he's even kept his accent! Now Peter, on the other hand, knew all the moves and how to behave as a politician should. He's in the capital for life or at least until the next time he has to head east and recover from a nasty dumping. Nothing like a little home cooking on the farm to heal the hurtin. Another election win, an appointment here, an announcement, maybe a committee or two, lots of foreign travel, accepting calls from big bus., a senate promise, etc.
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paul taylor from new glasgow, nova scotia writes:
I love how people cant seem to see what harper is doing here . He is purging the conservative party of the Red Tories.
Getting rid of Casey and the Newfoundland Tories clears the decks for putting the gears to equalization payments that are the Bain of Ontario and Alberta Thinking .
Harper stood at 10 seats gained in Quebec last election. The Quebec Bi elections had Harper with a Gain of One replacing Bill Casey .
Keddy and Mac Kay will win or Harper could care less after the next election because he will pick up his majority with the hardballing of the Atlantic Accord.
Watch Harper will cut a deal with Sask. on equalization / Gas revenues and then Danny Williams and all the winers in the Atlantic Canada will be powerless.
Harpers way or the Highway LOL. Not that I agree but hey kids it is a cold hard truth.
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Les from NS writes:
You will see some @ss kissing tomorrow when Mr. PM wing-nut will buy more votes, & say that they will be removing troops from Afghanistan in 2009, but you know like I know that he will NOT remove them.

To Mr. Casey, don't give into that so called PM of ours, don't trust him he is a Reformer in a Conservative suit! Go as an Independent & kick @ss!! But i'll bet when Harper sees the poll #'s of your support down here, he will say to himself... **Hmmmm maybe I should bring him back to the party, I need all the seats I can get for my majority, & when I do..... !!!! Good-bye Canada! Hopefully Canadians will come to their senses & get Harper the H#@% out of Ottawa before he destroys this Beautiful Country of ours!
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Alain T from Hfx, NS writes:
My song to Gus Grady:

It's really not my habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope my meaning won't be lost or misconstrued
But I'll repeat myself, at the risk of being crude

*Hop on the bus, Gus
No need to discuss much*

It grieves me so to see you in such pain
I wish there was something we could do to make you smile again.

The problem is all inside your head
The answer is easy if you take it logically

*Hop on the bus, Gus
No need to discuss much*

Why don't you just sleep on it tonight
And I hope in the morning you'll begin to see the light

*Hop on the bus, Gus
No need to discuss much*

Taken from:
50 Ways To Leave (Nova Scotia) your lover
Artist:Paul Simon
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Brian from NOVA SCOTIA writes:
Bill Casey broke his own agreement. So who is worst Harper or Casey. Same principle.
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Alain T from Hfx, NS writes:
Gawd, Gus,

Sorry guy, I forgot!

Mackenzie's Bus line doesn't run anymore from Bridgewater (over the historically fragrant Lahave River) anymore.

If ya need a ride,
I'm there fer ya, pard

Meet ya at the new Wal'Mart. Or, at the *Critter Burger*.
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Cliff from Nova Scotia writes:
Well....if Casey doesn't know what is in the new agreement, then why does he want to run as a Conservative.
Casey knew full well the ramifications of his decision, he chose to leave the party instead of using his position to influence from within. Gerald Keddy and Peter MacKay used their influence to make a few changes.
Simply put Casey really didn't understand what he was fighting for, nor the implications it would have in the rest of the country.
AND now his actions are simply one of gamesmanship, he will do whatever he has to so, but he will never be able to influence again. He mafe a rash decision and now he has to live with it.
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